The Grandchildren of Patrick Barrett and Bridget Heggerty

Michael Judge born 20 Oct 1859

Birth of Michael Judge 20 Oct 1859 12 Goosedubs, St Enoch, Glasgow

1859 Births in the District of Clyde in the Burgh of Glasgow Page 350 Item 1048
Michael Judge [born] 20 October 2859 [at] 9h 0m am [at] 12 Goosedubs, Glasgow [son of] John Judge, Blacksmith, [and] Ann Judge
MS Ann Barrett. [informant] Ann Judge her (x) mark, Mother. Witness Murdock Macleod Assistant Registrar. [Registered] 29 October 1858 at Glasgow. Murdock Macleod Assistant Registrar

Birth of Michael Judge 20 Oct 1858. Scotland’s People 1959 JUDGE, MICHAEL (Statutory Births 644/05 1048) Page 350 Item 1048

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As we have seen, Michael was the only child of the family when the census was taken in 1861 when the family had moved from Goosedubs and were then living at Laws Back Land, Clyde, Glasgow. At the 1871 Census the family are living at 20 Margaret Place, Clyde, Glasgow and Michael is 11-years-old; he now a sister for him, Ellen, aged 10. We have seen that the reason there were not more children was the consecutive run of five deaths of children aged three or under born between 1863 and 1872. At the 1881 Census Michael’s parents were living at 12 Thistle Street, Hutchesontown but he is not recorded as being present. He would have been aged around 21. Our next record of Michael is at his marriage to Janet Stewart on 2 Aug 1886

Marriage of Michael Judge and Janet Stewart 2 Aug 1886

I have not been able to find any children born to this couple and could not find them in the 1891 Census either. It is not until 1897 that I have found reference to him as a witness at the death of his sister, Helen, who had married Alexander Morris in that year. He gives his address as 40 Cowcaddens Street, Glasgow.

Marriage of Michael Judge and Jean Phillips bef 1921

I could not find a death for his wife, Janet Judge or Stewart but it seems he remarried to Jean Philips some time before 1921 but, I could not find a record of this marriage anywhere. I could not find any children either. That Michael was married to both these women is confirmed (seemingly) by his death registration.

Death of Michael Judge 9 Dec 1921 107 Maryhill Road, Glasgow

1921 Deaths in the District of Maryhill in the County of Lanark Page 85 Item 254
Michael Judge, Commercial Traveller, Married to 1st Jessie Stewart 2nd Jean Phillips [died] 9 December 1921 [at] 5h 30m AM [at] 107 Maryhill Road, Glasgow [aged] 62 [son of] John Judge Blacksmith (Deceased) and Ann Judge MS Barrett (Deceased) [cause of death] Lobar Pneumonia [as cert by] J F McKaigney LRCP [informant] J. Judge Widow (present) [Registered] 12 Dec 1921 at Glasgow A L Colvin Assist. Registrar

Death of Michael Judge 9 Dec 1921. 1921 JUDGE, MICHAEL (Statutory registers Deaths 644/14 254) Page 85 Item 254

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It is interesting to note that Michael Judge is a “commercial traveller” and if we wanted to pursue this further, other countries could be a consideration. Be that as it may, I am still surprised that neither of his marriages has come to light and that no children have been found for either marriage.

Ellen Judge born 13 Oct 1861

Birth and Baptism of Ellen Judge born 13 Oct 1861 Glasgow

Baptismal Register of St Andrew’s Metropolitan Cathedral 1861 Page 239
Ellen Lawful [daughter of] John Judge & Ann Barrett [born] 13 Oct 1861 [baptised] 20 Oct 1861 [Sponsors] Mary McGuire [priest] John B. Vasall

Baptism of Ellen Judge 20 Oct 1861. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms. Archive Ref MP/62/1/2/7. Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0689980.

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Ellen was born too late in the year to be recorded in the 1861 Census but she is present at the 1971 Census when the family were living at Margaret Place, Clyde, Glasgow. The two children present are Michael, now 11-years-old and Ellen aged 10. We have seen that the reason there were not more children was the consecutive run of five deaths of children aged three or under born between 1863 and 1872. Our next record of Ellen is at her marriage to Patrick Farquhar 5 Nov 1880

Marriage of Ellen Judge and Patrick Farquhar 5 Nov 1880

1880 JUDGE, ELLEN (Statutory registers Marriages 644/11 231) Page 116 Item 231
On the 5 day of November 1880 at St Francis Chapel, Cumberland Street after Banns according to the Forms of the Roman Catholic Church [were married] Signed: Patrick Farquhar, his (x) mark Iron Bolt Maker, Bachelor [aged] 19 [usual residence] 60 Rose Street, Hutchesontown, Glasgow [son of] Patrick Farquhar (Deceased), Farm Labourer and Mary Farquhar, M.S. Cunningham
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Signed: Ellen Judge, Cotton Reeler, Spinster [aged] 19 [usual residence] 60 Rose Street, Hutchesontown, Glasgow [daughter of] John Judge, Horse Shoer (Journeyman) and Ann Judge, M.S. Barrett. Signed Fr ?? Signed Witnesses Charles Hunt, Catherine Summers [Registered] 9 November 1880 at Glasgow Don. Hamilton Registrar

Marriage of Ellen Judge and Patrick Farquhar 5 Nov 1880. Scotland’s People – 1880 JUDGE, ELLEN (Statutory registers Marriages 644/11 231)

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The Children of Ellen Judge and Patrick Farquhar

John Farquhar born in 1883

I could only find one child born to this couple and that was John Farquhar who was born in 1883.

I could find no other reference to any children that this couple might have had and I found no death for him. I found very little out about Ellen/Helen at this period. There was a Helen Judge who was a sponsor at the baptism of Francis Jas Henretty in 1889 but I cannot be certain that this is her using her maiden name; it may have been a sister to John Judge. I have not been able to find her at the 1891 Census either when her parents were living at 18 South Shamrock Street, Hutchesontown with their daughters, Margaret, Ann and the 8-year old May. The next time we do meet her is at her marriage to Alexander Morris.

Marriage of Ellen Judge and Alexander Morris 10 Oct 1892

1892 JUDGE, ELLEN (Statutory registers Marriages 644/12 529) Page 265 Item 520
On the 10 day of October 1892 at St John’s Chapel, Portugal Street, Glasgow after Publication according to the Forms of the Roman Catholic Church [were married] Signed: Alexander Morris, Ironturner (Journeyman), (Bachelor) [aged] 25 [usual residence] 3 Francis Street, Glasgow [son of] Alexander Morris (Deceased), Enginefitter (Journeyman) and Jane Morris, M.S. Brannan
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Signed: Ellen Judge, Domestic Servant, Spinster [aged] 26 [usual residence] 3 Francis Street, Glasgow [daughter of] John Judge, Horse Shoer (Journeyman) and Ann Judge, M.S. Barrett. Signed Witnesses Patk Keilly Jessie Judge [priest] Signed John Macklusky [Registered] 10 Oct 1892 at Glasgow. Jno Brown Registrar

Marriage of Ellen Judge 10 Oct 1892. Scotland’s People – 1892 JUDGE, ELLEN (Statutory registers Marriages 644/12 529) Page 265 Item 529

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It is interesting to note that Ellen is recorded as a “spinster” which surely she is not. She is still only 25 when she marries Alexander Morris.

The Children of Ellen Judge and Alexander Morris

I could not find any children born to this couple. It seems that Ellen died five years after she married Alexander Morris.

Death of Ellen Morris or Judge 24 Feb 1897

Deaths in the District of Hutchesontown in the Burgh of Glasgow Page 77 Item 230
Helen Morris Married to Alexander Morris Labourer [died] 24 February 1897 [at] 9h 45m am [at] 14 South Shamrock Street, Glasgow [aged] 35 [daughter of] John Judge Blacksmith and Ann Judge MS Barrett [cause of death] Phthisis [as cert by] S Prince Clark Surgeon [informant] Michael Judge, Brother 40 Cowcaddens Street, Glasgow [Registered] 25 Feb 1897 at Glasgow. W H Black Assistant Registrar

Death of Helen Morris 24 Feb 1897. Scotland’s People – 1897 JUDGE, HELEN (Statutory registers Deaths 644/11 230) Page 77 Item 230

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Despite being married twice, Ellen was only 35 when she died. I have not found any children of either marriage except John Farquhar who was born when Ellen was about 22. It is of interest here that the informant was Ellen’s brother, Michael. One might have expected it to have been her husband but not so. He, in fact, lived for a lot longer, not dying until 1931

Death of Alexander Morris 1931

Margaret Judge born 27 Mar 1874

Birth of Margaret Judge born 27 Mar 1874 in Glasgow

I found an index entry in the birth registers for Margaret

The exact birth date is given in the baptismal register.

Baptism of Margaret Judge 31 Mar 1874 in Glasgow

Baptismal Registers St Andrew’s Metropolitan Cathedral 1974
[born] 20 March 1894 [bap] 31 Mar 1874 Margarita Judge [filia] Joannes et Anna Judge [olim] Barrett [priest] Jacobus Glancy [Sponsors] Brigitta Barrett

Baptism of Margaret Judge 31 Mar 1874. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms. Archive Ref MP/62/1/2/8. Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0589902

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Margaret Judge at the 1881, 1891 and 1911 Censuses

At the 1881 Census, Margaret is to be found as a seven-year-old at the family home at 12 Thistle Street. Apart from her parents, there is her older sister, Ellen, and her husband Patrick who had just been married a short while before. They are recorded as Ferichers instead of Farquhars. Her younger sister, Ann, is also in the household.

At the 1891 Census, Margaret is to be found as a seventeen-year-old “tobacco worker” living at the family home which is now 18 South Shamrock Street, Hutchesontown. She is the eldest child in the household and, apart from her parents, there is her younger sisters Ann (12) and Mary (8) who are both scholars

At the 1901 Census, Margaret is to be found as a twenty-five-year-old “Bond warehouse forewoman” – she seems to have lost a few years – living at the family home which is now 118 Rose Street, Hutchesontown. She is the eldest “child” in the household and, apart from her parents, there is also her younger sister, Mary, who is now eighteen and a “shirt machinist”. The household is rounded off with John Farquhar, grandson, aged 17 and a “telephone linesman”. He is, of course, the son of Margaret’s sister, Ellen who married Patrick Farquhar in 1880 and had their son, John, in 1883. We have seen above that there is a lot of uncertainty about that marriage and even the following marriage of Ellen to Alexander Morris. In Any case, she died in 1897 when John would only have been about 13-14 years-old. It is entirely possible that this was when he went to live with his grand-parents.

It must have seemed like Margaret was unlikely to ever marry but she did so in 1909 when she was surely thirty-five ( a year older than her husband) not the twenty-nine she is registered as!

Marriage of Margaret Judge and William Paterson McHardy 14 Jan 1909

1909 Marriages in the District of Hutchesontown in the Burgh of Glasgow Page 20 Item 39
On the 14 day of January at St Francis Church, Glasgow After Publication According to the Forms of the Roman Catholic Church [were married] Signed: William Paterson McHardy, Bonded Warehouseman, (Bachelor) [aged] 34 [usual residence] 84 Henderson Street West, Glasgow [son of] David McHardy, Cooper (Journeyman) and Catherine Nettie McHardy, M.S. Paterson
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Signed: Margaret Judge, Bonded Warehouse Forewoman (Spinster)[aged] 29 [usual residence] 118 Rose Street, Hutchesontown, Glasgow [daughter of] John Judge, Blacksmith and Ann Judge, M.S. Barrett. Signed Peter Hickey Signed Witnesses Robert Munley, Mary Judge. [Registered] 18 the January 1909. Hugh Jamieson Registrar

Marriage of Margaret Judge 14 Jan 1909. Scotland’s People – 1909 JUDGE, MARGARET (Statutory registers Marriages 644/15 39) Page 20 Item 39

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The McHardy’s at the 1911 Census, Maryhill, Glasgow

I found an index entry for a William McHardy which had other persons in the household named Margaret and David.

The McHardy’s at the 1921 Census 21 Springbank Road, Maryhill, Glasgow

I found William and Margaret McHardy at the 1921 Census

Census Return for 21 Springbank Road, Maryhill, Glasgow. Scotland’s People – 1921 MCHARDY, WILLIAM P (Census 644/13 25/ 4) Page 4 of 23

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Name	Rel	Age	Sex	Mar/Orph	Birthplace	Occupation	Employment
William P McHardy	Head	50y 6m	M	M	Hopeman, Morayshire	Labourer	Babcock & Wilcox Boiler Makers
Margaret McHardy	Wife	46y 3m	F	M	Glasgow, Lanarkshire	HD
David McHardy	Son	12	M	BA	Glasgow, Lanarkshire	Scholar
Margarita McHardy	Daur	9y 8m	F	BA	Glasgow, Lanarkshire	Scholar

Children of Margaret Judge to William Paterson McHardy

Margarita McHardy b 08 Oct 1911

Parish of St Charles Borromeo, Glasgow, Noth Kelvinside Baptismal Register 1911
Margaret McHardy [usual residence] 9 Shakespeare Street [born] 8 Oct 1911 [baptised] 15 Oct 1911 [baptised as] Margarita McHardy [daughter of] William and Margarita McHardy or Judge [priest] Eugene Murray [Sponsors] Hugh Armstrong, Anna Armstrong

Baptism of Margarita McHardy 15 Oct 1911. Find My Past -Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptism Archive Reference MP/456/1/2/2, Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0445530

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The only other reference I have for Margarita is at the 1921 Census where she is aged 9y 8m. SHe lives with her brother, David who is aged 12; both are scholars. Her father is a labourer at a boiler makers factory aged 50y 6m. Her mother, Margaret, is 46y 3m. I did look for marriages for her but couldn’t find any likely entries in the indexes. I could not find a convincing death registration under the name Margarita McHardy.

I do not know anything else about these children. I have not found a death registration for their father, William Paterson McHardy, but their mother, Margaret McHardy or Judge lived to the age of 94 and dies in 1969

Death of Margaret McHardy or Judge 20 Feb 1969

Deaths in the District of Glasgow 1969
Margaret McHardy [sex] F [date of birth] 27/3/1874 [age] 94 years Widow of William Paterson McHardy Bond Store Manager (Deceased) [died] 20 Feb 1969 [at] 0h 10m am [at] 13 Springbank Street, Glasgow [daughter of] John Judge Blacksmith (Deceased) and Ann Judge MS Barrett (Deceased) [cause of death] Broncho Pneumonia, Senility [as cert by] Frederick A Viapree MB. [informant] David McHardy Son [Registered] 21 Feb 1969, Glasgow

eath of Margaret McHardy 20 Feb 1969. Scotland’s People 1969 MCHARDY, MARGARET (Statutory registers Deaths 644/6 187) Entry No 187

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Despite being married twice, Ellen was only 35 when she died. I have not found any children of either marriage except John Farquhar who was born when Ellen was about 22. It is of interest here that the infomant was Ellen’s brother, Michael. One might have expected it to have been her husband but not so. He, in fact, lived for a lot longer, not dying until 1931

Ann Judge born 31 Jan 1879 in Glasgow

Birth of Ann Judge 31 Jan 1879 in Glasgow

I found an index entry in the birth registers for Ann.

The exact birth date is given in the baptismal register.

Baptism of Ann Judge 8 Feb 1879

Baptismal Register for St Andrew’s Metropolitan Cathedral, Glasgow 1879
Ann lawf [child of] John Judge [and] Ann Barrett [born] 31 Jan 1879 [baptised] 8 Feb 1879 [Sponsors] Bridget Haggerty [priest] Alex Munro

Baptism of Ann Judge 8 Feb 1879. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms. Archive Ref MP/62/1/2/9. Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0592057

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Ann Judge at the 1881, 1891 and 1911 Censuses

At the 1881 Census, Margaret is to be found as a two-year-old at the family home at 12 Thistle Street. Apart from her parents, There are two older sisters, Ellen, and her husband Patrick who had just been married a short while before. They are recorded as Ferichers instead of Farquhars. Her other sister, Margaret is 7-years-old.

At the 1891 Census the family home is now 18 South Shamrock Street, Hutchesontown. Ann is to be found as a twelve-year-old scholar. Her older sister, Margaret is a 17-year-old “tobacco worker” There has been another child since the last census, Ann’s little sister Mary who is eight.

Marriage of Ann Judge and George Glavin 24 Jun 1898

Marriage Registers of St Michael’s Church, 1350 Gallowgate, Parkhead, Glasgow 1898
Glavin & Judge
George Glavin and Annie Judge were after proclamation married by me in the presence of James Glavin and Lizzie Glavin on 24th June 1898. [priest] Michael McNairney

Marriage of Ann Judge 24 Jun 1898. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Marriages, Archive Ref MP/458/1/4/1, Record ID SCOT/RC/MAR2/0115325/2

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I tried looking for the family at the 1901 Census but could not find them. After a bit of searching I did come across Annie and her first child, James, in the household of an Ann Judge as visitors.

Annie Glavin or Judge at the 1901 Census – 51 Glebe Street, Glasgow

1901 Census Return for 51 Glebe Street, Glasgow. Find My Past 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Schedule 94 Arch Ref RG13

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There are some interesting aspects to this census return. I do not know who Ann Judge is. Obviously there is a temptation to think that it is a relation of Annie’s but it is hard to see how. I looked at the census return for Ann Judge who is a shopkeeper here and found an interesting entry for an Ann Judge, a fish dealer but it wasn’t convincing enough. However, the address is 51 Glebe Street and Annie’s second child had another address in Glebe Street as her home address at her baptism. That is also odd because that child, Annie Galvin, was born 24 March 1901 and the census was taken on 21 March, so one would expect her to be with her mother. Despite these difficulties, I am convinced that this is Annie Glavin or Judge and the one-year-old boy is her son, James.

Children of Ann Judge and George Glavin

Annie Glavin born in 1901

I found an index entry for Scottish births for Annie

Surname	Forename	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
GLAVIN	ANNIE	JUDGE	F	1901	644 / 6 / 535	St Rollox

I also found a baptism for her.

Parish of St Mungo, Glasgow, Townhead Baptismal Register April 1901 Page 661 Item 9
A Glavin
57 Glebe Street Anna Glavin [born] 24 Mar 1901 [baptised] 2 Apr 1901 [daughter of] George Glavin and Anna Glavin [olim] Judge [priest] Bonaventure Gilberteil (?) [Sponsors] Anna Judge

Baptism of Annie Glavin 2 Apr 1901. Find My Past -Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptism Archive Reference MP/456/1/2/6, Record IDSCOT/RC/BAP2/0729929

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I couldn’t find a marriage for Annie and, indeed, she may never have married since the following entry in the indexes to deaths seems to be hers

Surname	Forename	Age at death	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
GLAVIN	ANNIE	83	JUDGE	F	1984	590 / 257	Rutherglen

Death of Ann Glavin or Conroy

I do not know anything more about Ann Glavin or Judge; I have not been able to find a death registration for her nor a burial. I move on to the last child of John Judge and Ann Barrett and their children, Mary Judge.

Mary Judge b 2 Oct 1882 Glasgow

Birth of Mary Judge 2 Oct 1882 at 12 Thistle Street, Glasgow

Births in the District of Gorbals in the County of Lanark 1882 Page 439 Entry 1315
Mary Judge [born] 2 October 1882 [at] 6h 10m PM [at] 12 Thistle Street, Glasgow [daughter of] John Judge Hammerman [and] Ann Judge ms Barrett [who were married] 2 Oct 1855 at Glasgow [informant] John Judge his (x) mark Father (Present) Jno Brown Registrar Witness [Registered] 26 October 1882 at Glasgow. Jno Brown Registrar

Birth of Mary Judge 2 Oct 1882. Scotland’s People – 1882 JUDGE, MARY (Statutory Births 644/12 1315) Page 439 Item 1315

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I also found a baptism for Mary

Baptism of Mary Judge 8 Oct 1882

Baptismal Register for St Francis, Gorbals, Glasgow 1882
Mary Judge Leg [daughter of] John & Anne Barrett [R.C.] 12 Thistle Street [born] 1 Oct 1882 [baptised] 8 Oct 1882 [Sponsors] Patrick Manley & Elizabeth Cummins. [priest] Bertram Shulter

Baptism of Mary Judge 8 Oct 1882. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms. Archive Ref MP/440/1/2/1. Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0635885

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Mary Judge 1891, 1901 and 1911 Censuses

At the 1891 Census the family home is now 18 South Shamrock Street, Hutchesontown. Mary is the youngest member of the household aged just eight. Her older sister, Ann, who is aged 12 is a scholar as she is. The eldest daughter, Margaret, in a “tobacco worker”. Her father is a 60-year-old “blacksmith”; her mother is a 46-year-old “old clothes dealer”

At the 1901 Census the family home is now 118 Rose Street, Hutchesontown. Mary is now an eighteen-year-old “shirt machinist”. Her older sister, Maggie, is a 25-year-old “bond warehouse forewoman” and there is a grandson of her parents, John Farquhar, who is the child of her sister Helen (see above). Her father is aged 72 and unemployed; her mother is aged 60.

At the 1911 Census the family are still living at 118 Rose Street, Hutchesontown but Mary is the only child living with her parents. She is aged 28 but has no occupation; perhaps she looks after her parents. Her father is now seventy-seven and a retired horseshoe maker. Her mother is aged 72.

Mary’s father would die that same year, 1911, and her mother died a couple of years after that.

Marriage of Mary Judge and Robert Munley 1912

I found an index entry for the marriage of Mary Judge to Robert Munley.

If we move ahead we get a better idea of the children they had.

The Munleys at the 1921 Census – 67 Thistle Street, Gorbals, Glasgow

1921 Census Return for 67 Thistle Street, Gorbals. Scotland’s People – 1921 MUNLEY, ROBERT (Census 644/15 1/ 17) Page 17 of 31

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Here we find Mary aged 38 years and nine months; she is occupied in house duties. Her husband, Robert Munley, is aged 34 years and 5 months and is an “iron turner” at a works that makes machinery for sugar refining. They have three daughters living with them; Joanna (7y11m), Mary (4y 5m) and Margaret (3y 1m). They live at 67 Thistle Street, Gorbals. They also had a son who as we will see when we look in more detail at the children.

Children of Mary Judge and Robert Munlay

Joanna Munley b 18 Jul 1913

I found a birth registration index entry for Joanna.

Surname	Forename	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
MUNLEY	JOANNA	JUDGE	F	1913	644 / 15 / 1040	Hutchesontown

Her baptism provides the exact date of birth.

Baptismal Register for St Luke’s Church, Hutchesontown, Glasgow 1913
Joanna [L] [daughter of] Robert Munley + Mary Judge [C] 118 Rose Street [born] 18 Jul 1913 [baptised] 3 Aug 1913 [Sponsors] Margaret McAvoy [priest] Rev H Delargney
Confirmed 26/4/24 at St Luke’s

Baptism of Joanna Munley 3 Aug 1913. Find My Past -Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/447/1/2/1, Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0664578

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As we have seen, Joanna was to be found at the 1921 Census for 67 Thistle Street, Gorbals aged 7 years and eleven months. She was a scholar like her sisters Mary and Margaret.

We know from her baptismal register entry that she married on 16 Jun 1945; she married John Boyle Halleron:

Surname	Forename	Spouse Surname	Spouse Forename	Year	Ref	RD Name
MUNLEY	JOANNA	HALLERON	JOHN BOYLE	1945	644 / 17 / 160	Govan

Children of Joanna Munley and John Boyle Halleron

I found a number of births to this couple including, Eileen Halleron (1946), Patricia (1947), Rosemary (1950) and Robert (1952); all were born in the registration district of Springburn except Rosemary who was born in RD Provan.

I could not find a death for her or her husband.

Mary Munley b 30 Dec 1916

I found a birth registration index entry for Joanna.

Surname	Forename	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
MUNLEY	MARY	JUDGE	F	1917	644 / 15 / 21	Hutchesontown

Her baptism provides the exact date of birth.

Baptismal Register for St Lukes Church’s Hutchesontown, Glasgow 1917
Mary [L] [daughter of] Robert Munley & Mary Judge [C] 37 Thistle Street [born] 30 Dec 1916 [baptised] 9 Jan 1917 [Sponsors] Ellen Simmons [priest] Francis P Laggart
The above was married to Wm Miller 15/4/48 St Constantine’s Govan.

Baptism of Mary Munley 9 Jan 1917. Find My Past -Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/447/1/2/1, Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0665709

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As we have seen, Mary was to be found at the 1921 Census for 67 Thistle Street, Gorbals aged 4 years and 5 months. She was a scholar like her sisters Joanna and Margaret.

We know from her baptismal register entry that she married on 15 Apr 1948; she married William Hendry Miller:

Surname	Forename	Spouse Surname	Spouse Forename	Year	Ref	RD Name
MUNLEY	MARY	MILLER	WILLIAM HENDRY	1948	644 / 17 / 179	Govan

I could not find any convincing entries for children of Mary Munley and William Hendry Miller

Mary died in 1990 in Glasgow; she was aged 73.

Surname	Forename	Age at death	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
MUNLEY	MARY	73	JUDGE	F	1990	609 / 83	Glasgow, Martha St

Margaret Munley b 23 May 1918

I found a birth registration index entry for Margaret.

Surname	Forename	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
MUNLEY	MARGARET	JUDGE	F	1918	644 / 15 / 584	Hutchesontown

Her baptism provides the exact date of birth.

Baptismal Register for St Luke’s RC Church, Glasgow 1918
Margaret L[awful] [daughter of] Robert Munley & MArgaret Judge [religion] C [residence] 67 Thistle Street [born] 23 May 1918 [baptised] 31 May 1918 [Sponsors] Catherine Armstrong [priest] Francis P. Taggart
[addendum] Margarita Muneley contraactit matrimonium cum Jacobo McGoldrick in Ecc St Constantini /// Govan, Glasgow 17 Jul 1954

Baptism of Margaret Munley 31 May 1818. Find My Past -Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/447/1/2/1, Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0666105

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As we have seen, Margaret was to be found at the 1921 Census for 67 Thistle Street, Gorbals aged three years and one month. She was the youngest of the three daughter; Mary was four years and 5 months old and Joanna was seven years and eleven months old.

We know from her baptismal register entry that she married on 17 Jul 1954; she married James Joseph McGoldrick:

Surname	Forename	Spouse Surname	Spouse Forename	Year	Ref	RD Name
MUNLEY	MARGARET	MCGOLDRICK	JAMES JOSEPH	1954	644 / 17 / 251	Govan

I could not find a church record for this marriage beyond the addendum on her baptism record. The above shows that it did happen, though.

Children of Margaret Munley to James McGoldrick

I only found one child that seems likely for this couple and that was Peter Henry McGoldrick b 1956 Ref 644/10/673 RD Govan

I found a death for Margaret McGoldrick or Munley; she died in Glasgow in 2001 aged 83.

Surname	Forename	Age at death	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
MCGOLDRICK	MARGARET	83	JUDGE	F	2001	607 / 71	Glasgow, Martha St

I could not find a death for her husband; there were three possibilities even when I used his full name. I did find a death for Margaret McGoldrick or Munley, though; she died in Glasgow in 2001 aged 83.

Bridget McKinney b 21 Feb 1875, Glasgow

Baptism of Bridget McKinney 27 Feb 1875

1875 Marriage Registers of St John the Evangelist, Portugal Street, Glasgow
Bridget Lawful [child of] James McKenney and Mary Barrett [born] 21st [baptised] 27th [Sponsors] Ellen Judge. [priest] D McKintosh

Baptism of Bridget McKinney 27 Feb 1875. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/92/1/2/2 , Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0746441.

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James McKinney b 1876, Glasgow

Baptism of Mary McKinney 6 Jul 1878

Baptismal Registers for the Parish of St Francis 1878
McKinney, Mary Leg [child of] James & Mary Barrett [religion] R.C. [residence] 46 Rost Str. [born] 7 June 1878 [baptised] 6 July 1878 [Sponsors] Mrs McCart [priest] F. Innoc. Bulens

Baptism of Mary McKinney 6 Jul 1878. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/440/1/2/1, Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0633215.

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Marriage of Mary McKinney and John Robertson 12 Jul 1901

1901 Marriages in the District of Gorbals in the Burgh of Glasgow Page 166 Item 331
Twelfth of July 1901 at 34 Abbotsford Place, Glasgow, After Publication according to the Forms of the Church of Scotland [were married]
(Signed) John Robertson, Coal Miner (Bachelor) [aged] 22 [usual residence] 226 South Wellington Street, Glasgow [son of] John Robertson, Tailor and Alice Robertson MS Flett
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Mary McKinney, Hair Factory Worker (Spinster) [aged] 22 [usual residence] 226 South Wellington Street, Glasgow [daughter of] James McKinney, Riveter and Mary Hanratty previously McKinney MS Barrett. (Signed) Andrew Leiper Minister of Gorbals Parish (Signed) Andrew Forres (Witness) and Annie Daley (Witness). [Registered] 12 July 1901 at Glasgow. Jno Brown Registrar
Marriage of Mary McKinney and John Robertson 12 Jul 1901. Scotland’s People 1901 ROBERTSON, JOHN (Statutory registers Marriages 644/12 331) Page 166 Item 331

Burial of Marriage of Mary McKinney 12 Jul 1901. Scotland’s People – 1901 MCKINNEY, MARY (Statutory registers Marriages 644/ 12/ 331) Page 166 Item 331

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Death of Mary Robertson or McKinney 30 May 1906

1906 Deaths in the District of Hutchesontown in the Burgh of Glasgow Page 143 Item 420
Mary Robertson, Married to John Robertson Coal Miner [died] 30 May 1906 [at] 2h 15m am [at] 21 Commercial Road, Glasgow [aged] 26 [daughter of] James McKinney Ship Carpenter (Deceased) [and] Mary Henratty previously McKinney MS Barrett (Deceased) [cause of death] Phthisis 1 Month [as cert by] S.P Clark L.R.C.P.M. [informant] John Robertson, Widower (present) [Registered] 30 May 1906 at Glasgow. Hugh Jamieson Assis. Registrar

Death of Mary Robertson 30 May 1906. Scotland’s People – 1906 MCKINNEY, MARY (Statutory registers Deaths 644/11 429) Page 143 Item 427

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She seems to have been buried the very next day.

Burial of Mary Robertson or McKinney 31 May 1906, St Peter’s Dalbeth

St Peter’s Cemetery, Dalbeth – Interments in Common Ground
31 May 1906 Mary Robertson [aged] 26 [Disease] (Govan P Council) 7/6

Burial of Mary Robertson 31 May 1906. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Burials Ref CSP, Parish Burials, 1863-1958, Section 04, Record ID SCOT/RC/BUR/0236465.

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I am not sure why Govan Parish Council is written in the “disease” column.

The Children of Mary Barrett and Francis Hanratty

I do not know what happened to James McKinney. I have not found a death for him yet but at the 1881 Census, when Mary is found at the household of her parents at 201 Rutherglen Road, Hutchesontown, she is said to be a 36-year-ols widow and a “charwoman”. Her daughters, Bridget and Mary are with her (they are recorded as McKennas no McKinneys) which seems clear enough. In any case, five years later, she remarried to Francis Hanratty on 16 Jul 1886. A description of the details of her early life, both marriages and her life in general can be seen on the main page on this site that deals with the narrative of her parents, Patrick Barrett and Bridget Haggerty. In this sub-page we are only concerned with the children she had. We saw above that she had two surviving children out of three that she had by James McKinney but she went on to have another five or six (see below for an explanation) children with Francis Hanratty. Ann was born 23 May 1884, Francis James was born 9 Mar 1890, Owen or John, born 16 Nov 1891, Agnes born 15 May 1894 and John born 3 Sep 1895. It looks like, after their marriage in 1886, Mary and Francis moved from Glasgow to the Bellshill area of Lanarkshire – about 14 miles from Glasgow; I assume for employment reasons. All the children I know of, that they had, were born in Mossend, Bellshill, Lanarkshire

Ann Hanratty b 23 May 1888 Bellshill

Birth of Ann Hanratty b 23 May 1888 Bellshill, Lanarkshire

1888 Births in the District of Bothwell in the County of Lanark Page 99 Item 296
Ann Hanratty [born] Twenty-third May 1888 [at]7h 0m pm [at] No. 7 Watt Street, Mossend [daughter of] Francis Hanratty Blacksmith (Journeyman) [and] Mary Hanratty MS Mary Barrett [who were married] 16 July 1886 [at]Kinning Park [informant] Francis Hanratty Father (Present) [Registered] 11 June 1888 at Bothwell. William McNab Registrar

Birth of Ann Hanratty b 23 May 1888. Scotland’s People – 1888 HENRATTY, ANN (Statutory Births 625/01 0296) Page 99 Item 296.

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Baptism of Ann Hanratty 1 Jun 1888 Holy Family Church, Mossend, Bellshill

Baptismal Registers for Holy Family Church, Mossend, Lanarkshire 1888
Ann [L] [daughter of] Francis Henretty and Mary Barrett [born] 25 May 1888 [baptised] 1 June 1888 [Sponsors] Sarah Flannigan [priest] Michael Fox

Baptism of Ann Hanratty 1 Jun 1888. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/521/1/1/1 , Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0216479.

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Francis James Hanratty b 9 Mar 1890, Bellshill

Baptism of Francis James Hanratty 23 Mar 1890, Holy Family Church, Mossend

Baptismal Registers for Holy Family Church, Mossend, Lanarkshire 1889
Francis Jas [L] [son of] Francis Henretty and Mary Barrett [born] 9 March 1889 [baptised] 23 March 1889 [Sponsors] Richard Barratt and Helen Judge [priest] Michael Fox

Baptism of Francis James Hanratty 23 Mar 1890. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/521/1/1/1 , Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0216657.

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Death of Francis James Hanretty 15 Dec 1915, France

Army Form W. 3231 Return of Warrant Officers, Non-Commissioned Officers and Men of the Royal Horse and Royal Field Artillery who have Died whilst of Service Abroad in the War of 1914 to * Place of Enlistment [my comment – the asterisk by the age column might mean age at enlistment]
Name: Francis James Hanretty, Rgtl No: 48986, Rank: Gunner 40th Bty. 43rd Bde. Age: 26, Country of Birth: Scotland, Date of Death: 15 Dec 1915, Place of Death: France, Cause of Death: Killed in Action

Scotland’s People 1915 HANRETTY, FRANCIS JAMES (Statutory registers Deaths 134 AF8) Page 8 Item 10.

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I found an index entry in the death registers for James.

Burial of Francis James Hanretty 1915, France

Francis is buried in France at Fosse 7 Military Cemetery (Quality Street), Mazingarbe, Pas de Calais, France.

Bombardier Francis James Hanretty, Service Number 48986
Regiment & Unit/Ship: Royal Field Artillery 40th Bty. 43rd Bde.
Died 15 December 1915
Buried or commemorated at FOSSE 7 MILITARY CEMETERY (QUALITY STREET),MAZINGARBE, II. A. 4., France
Country of Service – United Kingdom

Commonwealth War Graves Commission – Francis James Hanretty, Service Number 48986

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Owen or John Hanratty b 16 Nov 1891

The next child is a little confusing. I suspect that the child registered as Owen Hanratty was the same child that was baptised as John Hanratty – unless they are twins! However, I can find a baptism for only one of these names and a birth registration for only one of these names

Birth of Owen Hanratty 16 Nov 1891, 14 Academy Square, Mossend

1891 Births in the District of Bothwell in the County of Lanark Page 251 Item 751
Owen Hanratty [born] Sixteenth November 1891 [at] 9h 0m AM [at] 14 Academy Square, Mossend [son of] Francis Hanratty, Steel smelter [and] Mary Hanratty MS Barrett [who were married] 16 July 1886 [at] Kinning Park [informant] Francis Hanratty Father Francis Hanratty Father [Registered] 9 December 1891 at Bothwell. William McNab Assistant Registrar

Birth of Owen Hanratty 16 Nov 1891. Scotland’s People – 1891 HENRATTY, OWEN (Statutory registers Births 625/1 751) Page 251 Item 751

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However, this is the last we hear of Owen. Instead we get a baptism, but not birth registration, of John Hanratty.

Baptism of John Hanratty 4 Dec 1891, Holy Family Church, Mossend

Baptismal Registers for Holy Family Church, Mossend, Lanarkshire 1891
John [L] [son of] Francis Henretty and Mary Barrett [born] 16 Nov 1891 [baptised] 4 Dec 1891 [Sponsors] Mary Oaks [priest] Michael Fox

Baptism of John Hanratty 4 Dec 1891. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/521/1/1/1 , Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0216849.

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I could not find a marriage for either of these people nor a likely death. I decided that this was too remote a branch for me to get bogged down in so I moved on to the next child, who was Agnes Hanratty.

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Agnes Hanratty b 15 May 1894

Birth of Agnes Hanratty b 15 May 1894, 14 Academy Square, Mossend

I found an index entry for Agnes in the Statutory Births records.

Surname	Forename	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
HENRATTY	AGNES		F	1894	625 / 3 / 175	Bothwell

The actual date of birth is derived from the baptismal record for Agnes

Baptism of Agnes Hanratty 3 Jun 1894, Holy Family Church, Mossend

Baptismal Registers for Holy Family Church, Mossend, Lanarkshire 1894
Agnes [L] [daughter of] Francis Henretty and Mary Barrett [born] 15 May 1894 [baptised] 3 Jun 1894 [Sponsors] Richard Barratt and Mary McKinney [priest] Michael Fox

Baptism of Agnes Hanratty 3 Jun 1894. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/521/1/1/1 , Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0217128.

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We next find Agnes at the 1901 Census.

Agnes Hanratty Orphan 21 Nov 1905 Omoa Poorhouse

Ancestry.com North Lanarkshire, Scotland, Poor Law Applications and Registers. Year Range: 1904-1908 Ref CO1/23/58.

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North Lanarkshire Heritage Centre; Motherwell, North Lanarkshire, Scotland; North Lanarkshire Poor Law Applications and Registers; Reference: CO1/23/58
Year Range: 1904-1908

Item	Description
Name:	Agnes Hanratty
Residence:	5 Burnside Buildings, Eastfield, Rutherglen
Born:	15 May 1894
Date of Minute:	11-Jan-06
Place of Birth:	Mossend, Bothwell
Religion:	R. Cath
Condition:	Orphan
Disability Level:	Wholly
Disability Cause:	Youth
How Destitute:	Wholly
Parentage :	Francis Hanratty and Mary Hanratty who was a pauper of this parish see Reg No 2038 (Both Dead)

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11 Jan 1906 Rnrol at 3/- weekly.
Left Rutherglen Parish and gone to reside with brother in Govan.

I could not find Agnes after this, either living with her brother at the 1911 Census or marrying. I could not find a death for her either. I now move on to the last child that Mary and Francis had, John. He had the briefest of lives.

John Hanratty b 3 Sep 1895

Baptism of John Hanratty 14 Sep 1895, Holy Family Church, Mossend

Baptismal Registers for Holy Family Church, Mossend, Lanarkshire 1895
John [L] [son of] Francis Henretty and Mary Barrett [born] 3 Sep 1895 [baptised] 14 Sep 1895 [Sponsors] Mary Oaks [priest] Michael Hughes

Baptism of John Hanratty John Hanratty 14 Sep 1895. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/521/1/1/1 , Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0217326.

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John did not live long. He is recorded as dying aged 0.

Richard Barrett b 18 Apr 1892 Glasgow

Birth of Richard Barrett 18 Apr 1892 Glasgow

I found an index entry in the birth registers for Richard.

The exact birth date is given in the baptismal register.

Baptism of Richard Barrett 25 May 1892

Baptismal Registers for St Francis’s Church, Glasgow 1892
Richard Barrett (L crossed out] [son of] Richard Barrett + Flora Morrison [re] RC [address] 113 Crown Street [born] 18 Apr 1892 [baptised] 25 Apr 1892 [Sponsors] Bridget McLaughlin [priest] Ambrose Doyle

Baptism of Richard Barrett 25 May 1892. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms. Archive Ref MP/440/1/2/2. Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0644332

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Richard Barrett at the Censuses

1901 Census
As we have seen in the page on this site concerning Richard’s parents, which you can see here, the family were living at 64 Rose Street, Gorbals, Glasgow. Richard senior is, as ever, a Cloth Lapper, and is aged 42. Flora, his wife, is 37. Richard, junior, is now 10-years-old and a scholar and the younger girls are Eliz(abeth) (6), Mary (2) and Marion (3 months)

1911 Census
Richard’s mother, Flora, had died in 1909; young Richard was the informant. At this census they are living at They live at 138 South Wellington Street, Glasgow. His father is now a 56-year-old widowed “clothlapper”. . Richard junior is now 18 and a “linesman” for a telephone company. 138 South Wellington Street, Glasgow. His younger sisters are Elizabeth is now 16 and is “at home”, presumably meaning that she is running the household. Mary is now 12 and Marion 10; both are scholars.

Marriage of Richard Barrett and Janet Feron 1914

We find the family at the 1921 Census living at 8 Sandyfaulds Street, Hutchesontown

Richard Barrett at the 1921 Census – 8 Sandyfaulds Street, Hutchesontown,

Census return for 8 Sandyfaulds Street, Glasgow . Scotland’s People 1921 Census England, Wales & Scotland. 1921 BARRETT, RICHARD (Census 644/15 46/ 26) Page 26 of 30

Here we see Richard’s family at 8 Sandyfaulds Street, Hutchesontown in 1921. Richard is now 29y 2m and a Post Office Engineer Class I, so he seems to be doing well. His wife, Janet is 27y 9m and they have four children at home with them. Richard is 6y 6m and is a scholar. The others are too young for school; Janet 1y 6m and James, just 3 months-old. Also in the household is Janet’s mother, Catherine Feron.; she is 58y 5m and is a widow.

The Children of Richard Barrett and Janet Feron

There is a clear gap between 1914 when Richard was born and 1919 when Janet was born; the obvious conclusion is that he went to war shortly after they were married/ I have not looked into this as yet.

Richard Barrett in 1927

Richard was the informant at his father’s death registration just as he was at his mother’s. Richard senior died 27 Apr 1927. He died in hospital but his usual address was still 237 South Wellington Street, Glasgow. Richard junior gave his address as 8 Sandyfaulds Street, Glasgow.

Death of Richard Barrett

I have not really been able to find out much more abut Richard; it would have been too time-consuming. I did find a possibly entry in RD Glasgow South for a Richard Barrett dyong in 1968 age 76 (644 / 1 / 919) but I can’t be sure that it is him. It would be possible to find out a lot about Janet Feron. I believe that she may have been the daughter of Kames Feron and Catherine Murphy (see here) but looking at her marriage to Richard Barrett would tease this out a bit. If she was then this census could be her family in 1901.

Elizabeth Barrett b 1894

Elizabeth Barrett b. 20 Sep 1894

I found an index entry in the birth registers for Elizabeth.

The exact birth date is given in the baptismal register but this is a little odd becasue she was not baptised until 1913 and I presume this was was to do with her marriage in that same year. I show it here becasue it is confirmation of her date of birth

Baptism of Elizabeth Barrett 16 Jul 1913

Baptismal Register of Parish of St Mary of the Assumption, Calton, Glasgow. 1913 Page 64
Elizabeth [child of] Rich. Barrett + Flora Morrison [born] 30 Sep 1894 [baptised] 16 Jul 1913 [priest] Patrick J Diamond.

Baptism of Elizabeth Barrett 16 Jul 1913 Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms. Archive Ref MP66/1/2/12. Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0750898

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There are several pages around this register page which all deal with people born a long time before their baptisms. I do wonder if this was something to do with a boom in marriages before the the husbands went to war.

Elizabeth Barrett at the Censuses

1901 Census
As we have seen in the page on this site concerning Elizabeth’s parents , which you can see here, the family were living at 64 Rose Street, Gorbals, Glasgow. Her father, Richard, is, as ever, a Cloth Lapper, and is aged 42. Flora, his wife, is 37. Richard, junior, is the eldest child at 10-years-old and he is a scholar. The daughters are Eliza(abeth) (6), Mary (2) and Marion (3 months)

1911 Census
Elizabeth’s mother, Flora, had died in 1909. At this census they are living at They live at 138 South Wellington Street, Glasgow. Elizabeth’s father is now a 56-year-old widowed “clothlapper”. Richard junior is now 18 and a “linesman” for a telephone company. 138 South Wellington Street, Glasgow. Elizabeth is now 16 and is “at home”, presumably meaning that she is running the household. Mary is now 12 and Marion 10; both are scholars.

Marriage of Elizabeth Barrett and James McCue 1913

The Children of Elizabeth Barrett and James McCue

Elizabeth McCue b 2 Jan 1914

Birth of Elizabeth McCue b 2 Jan 1914

I found an entry in the index to statutory births for Elizabeth.

Surname	Forename	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
McCUE	ELIZABETH	BARRETT	F	1914	644 / 3 / 19	Calton (Glasgow)

Baptism of Elizabeth McCue 26 Jan 1914

Baptismal Register of Parish of St Mary of the Assumption, Calton, Glasgow. 1914 Page 155-156
Elizabeth McCue [child of] James and Elizabeth [mother’s ms Barrett] [born] 2 Jan 1914 [baptised] 26 Jan 1914 [Sponsors] Susan McCue [priest] Patrick J Diamond.

Baptism of Elizabeth McCue 26 Jan 1914 Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/66/1/2/10 , Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0470201.

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Death of Elizabeth McCue 2002

I think I have found an index entry for Elizabeth’s death; though it is not definite the dates work well with the available information.

Surname	Forename	Age at death	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
MCCUE	ELIZABETH	88	BARRETT	F	2002	660 / 159	Largs

Susan McCue b 29 Sep 1915

Birth of Susan McCue b 29 Sep 1915

I found an entry in the index to statutory births for Susan.

Surname	Forename	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
McCUE	SUSAN	BARRETT	F	1915	644 / 3 / 1294	Calton (Glasgow)

Baptism of Susan McCue 9 Oct 1915

Baptismal Register of Parish of St Mary of the Assumption, Calton, Glasgow. 1915 Page 205-206
Susan McCue [child of] James and Elizabeth [mother’s ms Barrett] [born] 29 Sep 1915 [baptised] 9 Oct 1915 [Sponsors] Margaret McCue [priest] James H Doherty

Baptism of Elizabeth McCue 26 Jan 1914 Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms, Archive Ref MP/66/1/2/10 , Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0470994

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Death of Death of Susan McCue 1917 Glasgow

I think I have found an index entry for Susan’s death

Surname	Forename	Age at death	Mother's MS	Gender	Year	Ref	RD Name
MCCUE	SUSAN	1	BARRETT	F	1917	644 / 3 / 444	Calton (Glasgow)

The McCues at the 1921 Census

These were the only children I could find that I could be sure about. I have had a bit of a problem reconstructing this family. Although the only children I could find were Elizabeth b 1914 and Susan b 1915, the only likely candidates at the 1921 Census was a household of two people of the correct name and age but with no children with them in the household, whilst declaring that they had three dependent children aged 1, 3 and 7. There were actually a few possible options if you looked at births where the mother’s maiden name was not recorded but, in the end, I settled for just recording what I know.

The McCues after 1915

I could not find any further convincing documentation about any of this family apart from that noted above. At this level of my research these are really the outer limits and unless I find a future need to delve deeper there is a certain point where, if the information, does not fall into place relatively easily, I have to let it go and get on with more direct ancestors.

Mary Barrett 8 Jul 1898

Birth of Mary Barrett 8 Jul 1898

I found an index entry in the birth registers for Mary.

The exact birth date is given in the baptismal register.

Baptism of Mary Barrett 12 Jul 1898 at St Francis’s Church

Baptismal Registers for St Francis’s Church, Glasgow 214 Month of July 1898
Mary Barrett (Leg] [daughter of] Richard Barrett + Flora Morrison [rel] U.P. [address] 64 Rose Str [born] 8 Jul 1898 [baptised] 12 Jul 1898 [Sponsors] Mary McKinney [priest] Alexander J Murphy
[note added later]
“Married to Edward McGuire in this Church 1 May 1920”

Baptism of Mary Barrett 12 Jul 1898. Find My Past – Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms. Archive Ref MP/440/1/2/2. Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0649606

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I could not find the record of the marriage noted above but I did find one in indexes to civil registrations for 1919 in RD Anderston; see below.

Mary Barrett at the Censuses

1901 Census
As we have seen in the page on this site concerning Mary’s parents , which you can see here, the family were living at 64 Rose Street, Gorbals, Glasgow. Her father, Richard, is, as ever, a Cloth Lapper, and is aged 42. Flora, his wife, is 37. Richard, junior, is the eldest child at 10-years-old and he is a scholar. The daughters are Eliza(abeth) (6), Mary (2) and Marion (3 months)

1911 Census
Mary’s mother, Flora, had died in 1909. At this census they are living at They live at 138 South Wellington Street, Glasgow. Elizabeth’s father is now a 56-year-old widowed “clothlapper”. Richard junior is now 18 and a “linesman” for a telephone company. 138 South Wellington Street, Glasgow. Elizabeth is now 16 and is “at home”, presumably meaning that she is running the household. Mary is now 12 and Marion 10; both are scholars.

Marriage of Mary Barrett and Edward McGuire 19 Aug 1919

Marriages in the District of Anderston in the Burgh of Glasgow 1919 Page 347 Item 693
On the 19th day of August 1919 at 4 Minerva Street. By Declaration in the presence of Mary McKenzie, Confectionary Worker and Sarah McTaggart or McGuire. Signed: Edward McGuire, Carter, (Bachelor) [aged] 20 [usual residence] 237 South Wellington Street, Glasgow [son of] Edward McGuire, Labourer and Sarah McGuire, M.S. McTaggart
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Mary Barrett, (Spinster) [aged] 21 [usual residence] 237 South Wellington Street, Glasgow [daughter of] Richard Barrett, Cloth Lapper and Flora Barrett, M.S. Morrison (Deceased). Signed Warrant of Sherriff Substitute of Lanarkshire dated 20 Aug 1919. [Registered] 20th August 1919 at Glasgow. James Stirling Registrar

Marriage of Mary Barrett 19 Aug 1919. Scotland’s People – 1919 BARRETT, MARY (Statutory registers Marriages 644/11 693) Page 347 Iten 693

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In Scotland, “marriage by warrant of the sheriff substitute” refers to a specific type of irregular marriage, also known as a marriage by declaration. This type of marriage occurred when a couple declared themselves married before two witnesses, and then obtained a warrant from the sheriff substitute to have the marriage officially registered. This process was quicker and cheaper than a traditional church wedding, especially before civil marriages were introduced in 1940

The Children of Mary Barrett and Edward McGuire

It looks like we find Mary, Edward senior and Edward junior a couple of years later in 1921 when they are present in the household of her father, Richard Barrett.

The McGuires at the 1921 Census – 237 South Wellington Street, Glasgow

Census return for 237 South Wellington Street, , Glasgow. Scotland’s People 1921 Census England, Wales & Scotland. 1921 BARRETT, RICHARD (Census 644/15 41/ 6) Page 6 of 24

Here we see Mary’s father, Richard Barrett, as a nearly sixty-seven-year-old Cloth Lapper working for James Park. His daughter, Elizabeth is no longer in the household; she had married James McCue in 1913. Mary, is 22-years-old and is employed in home duties. As we saw above, she married Edward McGuire 19 Aug 1919 and this is surely the Edward McGurie, “unemployed carter” listed as a lodger here. Also, surely, the child, Edward McGurie, is her son even though both are listed simply as lodgers. We might have expected the elder Edward to be listed as son-in-law. The household also has Mary’s sister, Marion, who is now aged twenty and she is, like Mary, occupied with “home duties”; three years after this census was taken she would marry Charles Neil in St John’s Chapel in Portugal Street.

The McGuires in Later Years

I do not have any more on this family at the moment. It might be worth looking at electoral registers to try to tie them in with church records or similar but I stopped when I found a death for Mary.

Death of Mary McKennay McGuire or Barrett 1989

I found an index entry for Mary’s death; she lived to be 90 and died in 1989 in Glasgow

Marion McMillan Barrett 16 Dec 1900

Birth Marion McMillan Barrett 16 Dec 1900

I found an index entry in the birth registers for Marion.

The exact birth date is given in the baptismal register.

Baptism of Marion McMillan Barrett 4 Jan 1901 at St Francis’s Church

Baptismal Register for St Francis, Gorbals, Glasgow 1901
Marion Barrett Leg [daughter of] Richard Barratt [and] Flora Morrison (FP), 64 Rose St. [born] 16 Dec 1900 [baptised] 4 Jan 1901 [Sponsors] Kate Kenrog [priest] F Arsensius Mertens OFM

Baptism of Marion Barrett on 04 Jan 1901 at St Francis, Glasgow, Gorbals. Find My Past Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms. Archive reference: MP/440/1/2/2, Record ID: SCOT/RC/BAP2/0651690Page 264

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I could not find the record of the marriage noted above but I did find one in indexes to civil registrations for 1919 in RD Anderston; see below.

Marion Barrett in the Censuses 1901, 1911, 1921

1901 Census
As we have seen in the page on this site concerning Marion’s parents , which you can see here, the family were living at 64 Rose Street, Gorbals, Glasgow. Her father, Richard, is, as ever, a Cloth Lapper, and is aged 42. Flora, his wife, is 37. Richard, junior, is the eldest child at 10-years-old and he is a scholar. The daughters are Eliza(abeth) (6), Mary (2) and Marion is the newest addition to the family at just 3 months old.

1911 Census
Marion’s mother, Flora, had died in 1909. At this census they are living at They live at 138 South Wellington Street, Glasgow. Elizabeth’s father is now a 56-year-old widowed “clothlapper”. Richard junior is now 18 and a “linesman” for a telephone company. 138 South Wellington Street, Glasgow. Elizabeth is now 16 and is “at home”, presumably meaning that she is running the household. Mary is now 12 and Marion is 10; both are scholars.

1921 Census
Marion’s father, Richard is now nearly sixty-seven and still a “loth lapper” He works for James Park. His daughter, Elizabeth is no longer in the household; she had married James McCue in 1913. His daughter, Mary, is 22-years-old and is employed in home duties. As we saw above, she married Edward McGuire 19 Aug 1919 and this is surely the Edward McGurie, “unemployed carter” listed as a lodger here. Also, surely, the child, Edward McGurie, is her son even though both are listed simply as lodgers. We might have expected the elder Edward to be listed as son-in-law. Marion is now aged twenty and is, like her sister, Mary, occupied with “home duties”; three years after this census was taken she would marry Charles Neil in St John’s Chapel in Portugal Street.

Marriage of Charles Neil and Marion Barrett 21 Mar 1924 at St John’s Chapel, Portugal Street, Glasgow

“1924 Marriages in the District of Gorbals in the Burgh of Glasgow Page 41 Item 82
On the 21 day of March at St John’s Church, Portugal Street, Glasgow, After Publication according to the forms of the Roman Catholic Church [were married] Signed: Charles Neil, Carter, Bachelor [aged] 24 [usual residence] 10½ Eglinton Lane, Glasgow [son of] John Neil, Coal Dealer (Deceased) and Mary Anne Neil, M.S. Chrystal (Deceased)
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Signed: Marion McMillan Barrat, Cotton Mill Worker, Spinster [aged] 23 [usual residence] 4 Surrey Street, Glasgow [daughter of] Richard Barrat, Clothlapper and Flora Barrat, M.S. Morrison (Deceased)
Signed Denis Sheehan R.C. Clergyman St John’s, Portugal Street, Glasgow
Witnesses William Shearer 263 Eglinton Street, Glasgow [and]Jane Cameron 9 Cavendish Pl, Glasgow
[Registered] 24 March 1924 at Glasgow Wm Bissett Registrar

Marriage of Charles Neil 21 Mar 1924, Scotland’s People, 1924 NEIL, CHARLES (Statutory registers Marriages 644/17 82) Page 41 Item 82)

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The Children of Marion McMillan Barrett and Charles Neil

As we get to children of the later grandchildren of Patrick Barrett and Bridget Heggerty the details get harder to see as they become unavailable online due to closure periods. For people born after 1921, there are not even census returns to help with constructing families. I have found their children in the indexes to births but without a mother’s maiden surname in the appropriate field; this makes them a little speculative but they fit very well.

Death of Marion McMillan Neil or Barrett

Marion’s husband, Charles, died in 1934 aged just 34; his story is told more fully in the page dealing with the children of John Neil and Mary Ann Chrystal . Marion went on to live for another forty-eight years!

Death of Marion McMillan Neil or Barrett

Margaret Howies Barratt b 1901 Glasgow

Birth of Margaret Howies Barratt b 1901 Glasgow

I found an index entry in the birth registers for Margaret.

Margaret did not live long; she died in 1903.

Death of Margaret Howies Barratt 1903 Glasgow

I found an index entry in the birth registers for Margaret.

The witnesses here are probably Bridget’s brother, Richard and Anne Judge is probably a sibling of her sister, Ann’s, husband, John Judge.